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Post by hellrock on Jul 26, 2015 3:04:17 GMT
I've been losing lots of health each minute, is there a way to heal? I went on google and there wasn't any scientifically accurate way for cells to heal or regenerate.
I've also seen cells popping out of me at random occasions, which allow me to edit my cell, on what certain conditions does this happen?
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Post by mitobox on Jul 26, 2015 3:59:42 GMT
I've been losing lots of health each minute, is there a way to heal? I went on google and there wasn't any scientifically accurate way for cells to heal or regenerate. I've also seen cells popping out of me at random occasions, which allow me to edit my cell, on what certain conditions does this happen? There doesn't seem to be a way to heal, per say. Adding more parts to your cell does proportionately increase your health, but that's not true healing. Cell repair would be a nice feature in the future.
If you have five reproductase, your cell undergoes mitosis, or "splits." Your cell's endoplasmic reticulum (implied to be attached to the nucleus) manufactures reproductase from amino acids, which are made from ammonia, glucose, and I believe oxygen.
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Post by hellrock on Jul 26, 2015 17:57:36 GMT
Maybe reproductase could be renamed to spare DNA, genome, or even chromatin, a part of the cell vital to mitosis. Chromosomes or fibers could also replace reproductase, since the chromosomes attach to them to be divided.
I also heard that amino acids don't play a major role in mitosis.
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Post by Moopli on Jul 27, 2015 16:41:32 GMT
We're completely overhauling reproductase (ie, removing it and putting something in which actually makes a modicum of scientific sense) some time down the line. The full replacement is tied closely to Auto-Evo and so on, so reproductase will probably continue to be a placeholder until then.
It was originally put in simply to give the player something to work towards before being able to reproduce. Nothing more, nothing less -- it wasn't designed to model mitosis, or cell growth, or whatever, it's just a simple gameplay addition to test a couple different parts of the code.
For healing, that depends a lot on how we'll end up modelling health, but there are certainly all sorts of process that go on within a microbe to recover from damage or maintain homeostasis in the face of stress.
I think our current plan involves multiple forms of health and damage: - Specific organelles can take damage, reducing their throughput, possibly with other knock-on effects - Other components of the cell as a whole can be targeted, for example, the cell wall, or the membrane, or the cytoskeleton, etc.
Note, though, that none of these actually act to decrease the cell's "hp", instead, they make it more difficult for the cell to continue living, and eventually it would lose the ability to maintain homeostasis, various processes alternatively spiral out of control (for example, osmosis inflating the cell until it lyses) or grind to a halt (for example, control of free radicals via peroxisomes) and the cell is pronounced dead.
Obviously, such a system doesn't lend itself well towards an HP bar, so it could easily be completely impossible for the player to comprehend, so we have our work cut out for us there.
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Post by hellrock on Jul 27, 2015 21:11:10 GMT
Thanks for the info! But what if you get attacked by certain cells like Cnidocytes (If they would/could be added), will your cell just.... explode?
And speaking of Cnidocytes, is there any other way for your cell to defend itself other than just releasing toxic compounds or 'oxytoxy'.
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Post by Skyguy98 on Jul 28, 2015 20:33:09 GMT
Thanks for the info! But what if you get attacked by certain cells like Cnidocytes (If they would/could be added), will your cell just.... explode? And speaking of Cnidocytes, is there any other way for your cell to defend itself other than just releasing toxic compounds or 'oxytoxy'. most of the info on things like that can be found on the microbe gdd that they posted on their wiki page thrivegame.wikidot.com/microbe-stage-gdd which has subparts whose links are found here on the forums thrivegame.freeforums.net/thread/58/microbe-stage-gdd-wip
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