samoja
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Post by samoja on Jun 22, 2017 12:27:16 GMT
Here is an interesting article i found: www.science20.com/news_staff/before_mitochondria_an_enzymefree_krebs_cycle-224969, about how Krebs cycle worked before Mitochondria, i suggest that for the time being Mitochondria gets locked, and gets replaced by two new vacuoles, enzyme vacuole that would allow for Glycosis, this would replace Mitochondria as starting organelle, it would take 2 ATP and 1 Glucose and produce 4 ATP and 2 Pyruvic acid, that would get excreted at first, i also suggest to replace oxygen with sulfur and add another vacuole type, sulfur vacuole, allowing you to collect sulfur, 2 Pyruvic acid and 1 sulfur would make further 4 ATP. |
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Post by BiologicalSomething on Jun 23, 2017 23:50:17 GMT
I see your point, but are they honestly going to replace oxygen with sulphur? Make them two separate compounds, and disallow collection of oxygen until the development of Mitochondria.
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samoja
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Post by samoja on Jun 24, 2017 0:04:59 GMT
I see your point, but are they honestly going to replace oxygen with sulphur? Make them two separate compounds, and disallow collection of oxygen until the development of Mitochondria. :cyclid: They can easily add oxygen back in later, i just thought that renaming and recoloring oxygen would be way easier right now then making entirely new compound, you won´t need mitochondria until way later in development when more complex cell combinations (requiring more ATP) become available, before that it would just be overkill and would make it easy mode, if the base game is re balanced for 2 ATP initially and 6 ATP with sulfur then the ability to gain 36 ATP would mean you can just basically gobble up a few pieces of glucose and you are set, it needs to be set up so it comes just about when you begin struggling to keep up with the consumption your increasingly complex cell requires, maybe keep oxygen around but make it toxic before you develop mitochondria (oxygen was in fact dangerous corrosive chemical when first introduced in the environment, only later did some bacteria find a way to harness it). |
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