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Post by crabghast on Apr 8, 2017 13:34:02 GMT
Excuse the title it's just there to grab you attention you decadent belgiumposters
How do the dev team and the fans feel about compiling a list of memes? A meme in the game would be any idea or concept that's spread withing your species' culture. So for example (i'm simplifying this a lot), "democracy" and then a sliding -100 to 100 value of their approval of it, and the effects that it has on policy support. So a pop that has a 90 value on the "democracy" meme would be happier when your policy is democratic, and unhappier if it's undemocratic. The more radical their support of it is the more they would be affected by the happiness modifier and more likely to stage a revolt or something such as that.
It'll also be important to discuss it's implementation as calculating so many memes would take up a ton of processing power if not done right.
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Post by ATP Kraken on Apr 8, 2017 13:49:09 GMT
There are three four types of memes:
Cultural memes, that of an ethnicity or cultural group.
Religious memes, that of a religious group.
Political memes, that of a political party.
Dank memes, that of a belgiumposting group. Often increases happiness.
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Post by Aquos on Apr 8, 2017 13:50:44 GMT
There are three four types of memes: Cultural memes, that of an ethnicity or cultural group. Religious memes, that of a religious group. Political memes, that of a political party. Dank memes, that of a belgiumposting group. Often increases happiness. I'd add one more to that: biological meme's meme's of a species. Cannot be changed (unless with genemodding) |
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Post by crabghast on Apr 8, 2017 13:53:49 GMT
There are three four types of memes: Cultural memes, that of an ethnicity or cultural group. Religious memes, that of a religious group. Political memes, that of a political party. Dank memes, that of a belgiumposting group. Often increases happiness. I'd add one more to that: biological meme's meme's of a species. Cannot be changed (unless with genemodding) Makes sense. Biological memes would decide on what cultural and religious memes would appear in a species, and which couldn't. A hive with no free thought wouldn't develop certain cultural traditions and so on. |
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Post by The_Wayward_Admiral on Apr 8, 2017 13:59:20 GMT
Don't forget:
Intellectual Memes: These are ideas which are not associated with cultural works or ideals, religious teachings, or political fanaticism. Instead, these are based around accepted scientific principles and ideas regarding the underpinnings of life, the planet, and reality itself. These are things that would potentially impact which areas of the tech web are accessible, which ideas tend to gain traction faster, etc.
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Post by crabghast on Apr 8, 2017 14:00:53 GMT
Don't forget: Intellectual Memes: These are ideas which are not associated with cultural works or ideals, religious teachings, or political fanaticism. Instead, these are based around accepted scientific principles and ideas regarding the underpinnings of life, the planet, and reality itself. These are things that would potentially impact which areas of the tech web are accessible, which ideas tend to gain traction faster, etc. Huh, I like that idea. I would rather call them scientific memes as they are based on the species' scientific knowledge. |
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Post by Aquos on Apr 8, 2017 14:01:51 GMT
Don't forget: Intellectual Memes: These are ideas which are not associated with cultural works or ideals, religious teachings, or political fanaticism. Instead, these are based around accepted scientific principles and ideas regarding the underpinnings of life, the planet, and reality itself. These are things that would potentially impact which areas of the tech web are accessible, which ideas tend to gain traction faster, etc. Huh, I like that idea. I would rather call them scientific memes as they are based on the species' scientific knowledge. I think intellectual works better. It's more about the way these people see the litteral world around them, than about the concrete facts. |
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Post by The_Wayward_Admiral on Apr 8, 2017 14:05:39 GMT
This is difficult, because I mostly wanted them to be the result of a culture's research, but not to necessarily always be true or even related to experimentation...
I think because things like "geocentricism" would also fall under this category, it's probably more accurate to say intellectual than scientific, just because it won't always involve discovery.
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Post by crabghast on Apr 8, 2017 14:07:25 GMT
This is difficult, because I mostly wanted them to be the result of a culture's research, but not to necessarily always be true or even related to experimentation... I think because things like "geocentricism" would also fall under this category, it's probably more accurate to say intellectual than scientific, just because it won't always involve discovery. Yes, that makes sense. Geocentrism wasn't based in science but merely faith and assumption. Maybe we could merge "religious" and "intellectual"? Belief in spirits or gods could also fall into the category of geocentrism since it's not based on evidence. Maybe call them philosophical memes. |
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Post by Aquos on Apr 8, 2017 14:10:52 GMT
This is difficult, because I mostly wanted them to be the result of a culture's research, but not to necessarily always be true or even related to experimentation... I think because things like "geocentricism" would also fall under this category, it's probably more accurate to say intellectual than scientific, just because it won't always involve discovery. Yes, that makes sense. Geocentrism wasn't based in science but merely faith and assumption. Maybe we could merge "religious" and "intellectual"? Belief in spirits or gods could also fall into the category of geocentrism since it's not based on evidence. Maybe call them philosophical memes. I think they should be seperated. Because, our culture would have the meme of 'Scientific Model', which shoudln't really fall under the same category as religion IMO. I think philophie should be about religion, and similar things. So, Socrates is philosphical, but Archimides is Intellectual |
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Post by crabghast on Apr 8, 2017 14:25:12 GMT
What is everybodys opinion on this division to the memes (credits to aquos on the Discord)
Intellectual (Perspective on the world around them, such as geocentrism and heliocentrism or the theory of evolution)
Philosophical (Perspective on the non-literal world around them, so all philosophical and religious questions)
Political (Perspective on how should they be ruled and what policy should be enacted)
Cultural (Cultural ethics and traditions)
Biological (Traits inherent to them biologically)
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Post by Aquos on Apr 8, 2017 14:26:37 GMT
I like it. You worder this way better than I did, btw.
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Post by crabghast on Apr 8, 2017 14:27:43 GMT
Aw thank you  |
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Post by crabghast on Apr 8, 2017 14:52:55 GMT
BIOLOGICAL MEMES-CURRENT LIST COURTESY OF THE DISCORD
This is a list of all the current suggestions for the sake of deciding which ones should go into further speculation and which to throw in the trash can of memes or merged/split into others
Individuality
The ability of a specimen to make decisions on it's own. Varies from individual, such as most life on Earth is, to pooled minds and hives
Sex
The reproductive ways of a species. For example, most Earth animals close to humans have 2 sexes (not counting intersex), but mushrooms for example can have 1000s.
Sexual Dimorphism
The ways in which the sexual dimorphism of the species affects it's specimens. Varies from reproductive-only, over superficial and low dimorphism all the way to where the sexes are almost unrecognizable as the same species.
Race
in this case includes everything from literal dimorphism to superficial difference within the species' members
Biological Caste
Dimorphism between members of the species, such as workers/warriors/queens etc.
Empathy
Determines the amount of solidarity the species' members feel towards others on average, affects political meme supports as well as likely cultural and religious developments.
Sociality vs Solitarity
The species preference in living with other members. Solitary species will usually prefer living on their own, in sparesly populated areas while social ones would prefer to live in close communities. (note that this isn't a simple dichotomy and you can be inbetween or so)
Cooperation vs Opportunism
Does the species prefer working together to a common goal or working for their own? Has heavy effects on all other memes.
Aggression
Varies widely and affects most other memes. Agressive species may also be more radical in their meme support and more likely to throw a fight or rebellion
Fear
How easily threatened the species members are. Affects the efficiency of law enforcement and memetic divergence.
Subservience
Similarly to fear, it influences law enforcement and memetic divergence but also the morale of armies and happiness of slaves or workers, as well as likely memetic development in other fields.
Intelligence (average)
Mostly influences research
Curiosity
Influences research and scientific conformity vs experimentality
Scientific conformity vs Experimentality
Influences research
Lifespans
Determines the average lifespan
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