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Post by Omicron on Oct 11, 2016 18:19:51 GMT
I know what the LAWK toggle is, but right now the only thing it disable (I think), are the thermoplasts... Why add it if it only does one thing...
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Post by Immortal_Dragon on Oct 11, 2016 18:28:19 GMT
LAWK stands for Life As We Know, which means that with it on only the parts that we know exist for sure will be allowed. With it off, it allows a number of other options and parts that will grow as the game is developed.
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Post by Omicron on Oct 11, 2016 18:29:39 GMT
LAWK stands for Life As We Know, which means that with it on only the parts that we know exist for sure will be allowed. With it off, it allows a number of other options and parts that will grow as the game is developed. But I've only heard of/seen the thermoplast...
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Post by Immortal_Dragon on Oct 11, 2016 18:38:11 GMT
LAWK stands for Life As We Know, which means that with it on only the parts that we know exist for sure will be allowed. With it off, it allows a number of other options and parts that will grow as the game is developed. But I've only heard of/seen the thermoplast... Like I said, it'll probably expand as more non-LAWK parts are added and the game develops.
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Post by Oliveriver on Oct 11, 2016 18:39:12 GMT
Because in future it will serve to enable and disable other things which may be exciting from a gameplay perspective but not entirely scientifically accurate. Fire-breathing, for instance. Modders could add fictional organelles and label them non-LAWK so the LAWK toggle will enable or disable them. It's a system in place mostly for the future, so right now the fact it only refers to one thing is irrelevant.
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Post by The_Wayward_Admiral on Oct 11, 2016 18:41:12 GMT
A few other suggestions (of varying degrees of seriousness and likelihood of implementation) put forth by the community in the past:
- Telepathy - Organic Wheels - Rotary Wings - (as Oliveriver ninja'd) Fire Breath
and probably some that I haven't come across in a thread yet.
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Post by tjwhale on Oct 11, 2016 20:02:48 GMT
Also the space stage has much more room for stuff like this. IMO we should head mostly for hard science fiction (as soft science fiction is too broad) but that excludes a lot of stuff, like teleporters or backwards time travel or basic FTL drives or plasma weapons.
Of course some people might really like this stuff so it could be included later as non-LAWK.
It's a really interesting question, I'm finding it really hard to think of things which are scientifically impossible and there aren't many. Almost anything has the possibility of being achieved, which is really interesting.
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Post by StealthStyleL on Oct 11, 2016 21:20:57 GMT
Does that mean we can have forwards time travel?
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Post by tjwhale on Oct 11, 2016 22:22:41 GMT
Does that mean we can have forwards time travel? As a general concept forwards time travel is straight forward (pun not intended). You can either accelerate to near the speed of light or go hang out near a black hole for a bit and come back far into the future. The issue of time in the space stage is an interesting one. In each stage less time passes (billions in the microbe, hundreds of millions as an animal, thousand in industrial) because of the accelerating pace of change. So does that mean the space stage is over in a few years? Do you rip through a deep tech tree in a decade and hit some sort of singularity? Is there any time for colonising other worlds? If you want to establish a colony it will take many generations but in that time the research that could be done on your core planet would be incalculable, assuming things keep speeding up. One game which treats this really well is Rimworld. Where worlds which become very advanced almost instantly transcend the physical plane (a usual end point for sci-fi civs) and all that is left is the people who left that planet before they transcended. So you end up with many different planets at many different levels even though, once they can, they almost instantly vaporise. Anyway yeah a bridge to cross when we come to it and not before.
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Post by Longisquama on Oct 12, 2016 1:01:38 GMT
Pili in Eukaryotes should be inside LAWK :-P
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Post by TheGraveKnight on Oct 12, 2016 14:40:29 GMT
So essentially LAWK is something that you can toggle depending on whether you want to be scientifically accurate or creative?
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Post by StealthStyleL on Oct 12, 2016 15:01:49 GMT
Yep.
Edit: I think this may be the best post I have ever written.
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Post by GRODOG on Oct 14, 2016 23:33:27 GMT
Welp.... the first thig ill do is trigger LAWK off... cause I wanna see it at its maximum!!
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Post by Lanky Giraffe on Oct 23, 2016 12:25:09 GMT
So, with LAWK off you could have creatures like: an animal that photosynthesises; Atrox's Cyclids; Helicopter bugs; dragons and those sort of things, then with LAWK on you would have Earth-like creatures? Also, will LAWK effect other life in your game?
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Post by ATP Kraken on Oct 27, 2016 20:46:37 GMT
Photosynthetic animals do exist, dinoflagellates (of red tide infame) are motile, have red photosynthetic organelles, and also engulf other microbes. None are macroscopic, though, probably due to fish and bugs not being mixotrophs.
Wheels and rotors: The exact mechanics are sketchy, but bootleg cyclids would be still restricted to non-LAWK.
Dragons, not of the Komodo variety, that expel classical elements from a hole, are also really mechanically sketchy. Not LAWK.
Then even with LAWK on, it would be just like Spore all over again (except not cutesy). There's still a huge amount of diversity one can find. It could go from Half-Life's Xen creatures, like the Antlions and Vortigaunts, to Avatar's (the bending one) "take two animals and combine them."
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Post by Omicron on Oct 28, 2016 13:58:20 GMT
Photosynthetic animals do exist, dinoflagellates (of red tide infame) are motile, have red photosynthetic organelles, and also engulf other microbes. None are macroscopic, though, probably due to fish and bugs not being mixotrophs. I've even heard of a snail (Elysia chlorotica), which eats plants, but doesn't digest the chloroplast, it actually uses the chloroplast to perform (don't know another word, not a native speaker) photosynthesis. Wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysia_chlorotica
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