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Post by lowry on Mar 31, 2016 22:25:16 GMT
During the British industrial revolution, a species of moth that lived on birch trees (a tree with silvery white bark) to camouflage from predators, changed dramatically. The bark of the trees changed colour from all the ash given out by factories. A subspecies of the morg began to overtake the others as they blended in to the new bark better. Will we be able to see this? Will auto evolution of animals still take place as civilisations rise and fall?
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Post by Atrox on Mar 31, 2016 22:29:31 GMT
Industrialization in-game will occur to fast for any significant changes to happen to animals.
I'm pretty sure that moth example was a myth wasn't it? It's an example used to explain how evolution works, but I doubt the entire species changed that quickly
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Post by lowry on Mar 31, 2016 22:38:35 GMT
No, it's not a proof of evolution your correct, more an example of SOTF or natural selection, it's seen everywhete and is almost certainly not a myth, take tawny owls and snowy owls in Finland (or somewhere else Northern European) as climates changed recently (I think the owl survey was between 2007-2012) more tawnys became present from colour based advantage over snowies in areas where snowies have been dominant for centuries. There's a Ted talk on it somewhere...
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Post by Atrox on Mar 31, 2016 22:42:18 GMT
Ah sweet if you could link me to that that'd be pretty cool.
So animals evolving to adapt to industrialization.. Perhaps there could be a list of environmental factors for the game to consider when you start industrializing. Pollution levels will start rising, habitats will start disappearing... And based on these changes auto-evo should take the best course of action.
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Post by lowry on Mar 31, 2016 22:56:59 GMT
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Post by Moopli on Mar 31, 2016 23:04:24 GMT
See, in all of these examples you simply have a diverse population that simply moves from having one form predominant to another. There is no innovation of new genes, just a change in allele frequency. Since we will probably not be modelling sub-species-level genetic trends like that, we probably won't be able to simulate such examples.
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Post by Atrox on Mar 31, 2016 23:11:33 GMT
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Post by lowry on Mar 31, 2016 23:43:01 GMT
See, in all of these examples you simply have a diverse population that simply moves from having one form predominant to another. There is no innovation of new genes, just a change in allele frequency. Since we will probably not be modelling sub-species-level genetic trends like that, we probably won't be able to simulate such examples. I know they're not evolutionary examples, I just couldn't find the words to describe what this process is. Would you describe it as Naturak selection on an ecological scale be a better explanation? |
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Post by GRODOG on Sept 3, 2016 10:28:53 GMT
idk... maybe something like those moths COULD change that way... kind of like the anole lizard here in Puerto Rico... they put short legged anols in small islands near PR with an enviroment that they not adapt to and after 4 years they came back and the anoles now had longer limbs and were completely adapted... even the mating color thingy on their neck changed its color so now they mate with eachother but not with their ancestors at the main isle... that is rapid auto-evo
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