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Post by polymorph011 on Aug 4, 2017 17:47:31 GMT
I had 72 O2 and 26 glucose, but ATP production was really slow for some reason. When i accidientally reached 0 ATP, it stopped being made completely, despite the abundance of necessary resources and my microbe being completely still.
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Post by BiologicalSomething on Aug 4, 2017 18:13:28 GMT
I had 72 O2 and 26 glucose, but ATP production was really slow for some reason. When i accidientally reached 0 ATP, it stopped being made completely, despite the abundance of necessary resources and my microbe being completely still. It could either have something to do with your mitochondria amount. It could also be you collecting resources, as ATP production stops when you take in compound clouds. Either that, or it's something to do with the system of your vacuoles prioritising a certain compound over ATP, as you can only hold so many resources. If it isn't any of these, it's possibly a previously undiscovered bug.
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Post by polymorph011 on Aug 4, 2017 18:28:57 GMT
I had 72 O2 and 26 glucose, but ATP production was really slow for some reason. When i accidientally reached 0 ATP, it stopped being made completely, despite the abundance of necessary resources and my microbe being completely still. It could either have something to do with your mitochondria amount. It could also be you collecting resources, as ATP production stops when you take in compound clouds. Either that, or it's something to do with the system of your vacuoles prioritising a certain compound over ATP, as you can only hold so many resources. If it isn't any of these, it's possibly a previously undiscovered bug. I am pretty shure this is a bug, because i was outside of any resource cloud, only had the compounds necessary for ATP (no ammonia) and it caused the microbe to "starve". Also, as far as i know , mitochondria should only prioritize something over ATP if there is some in store.
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Post by BiologicalSomething on Aug 4, 2017 18:43:29 GMT
It could either have something to do with your mitochondria amount. It could also be you collecting resources, as ATP production stops when you take in compound clouds. Either that, or it's something to do with the system of your vacuoles prioritising a certain compound over ATP, as you can only hold so many resources. If it isn't any of these, it's possibly a previously undiscovered bug. I am pretty shure this is a bug, because i was outside of any resource cloud, only had the compounds necessary for ATP (no ammonia) and it caused the microbe to "starve". Also, as far as i know , mitochondria should only prioritize something over ATP if there is some in store. I think there's an awkward system where you require equal levels of O2 and C6H12O6(glucose) for maximum efficiency. Basically meaning you were slightly less efficient. If this is not the case, I'll just tag crodnu to sort it out.
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Post by polymorph011 on Aug 4, 2017 19:23:44 GMT
I am pretty shure this is a bug, because i was outside of any resource cloud, only had the compounds necessary for ATP (no ammonia) and it caused the microbe to "starve". Also, as far as i know , mitochondria should only prioritize something over ATP if there is some in store. I think there's an awkward system where you require equal levels of O2 and C6H12O6(glucose) for maximum efficiency. Basically meaning you were slightly less efficient. If this is not the case, I'll just tag crodnu to sort it out. It`s just... wierd. Right after exiting the redactor i can get up from 0 to howewer much i can afford super quickly, but the longer i play the slower it gets.
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Post by crodnu on Aug 4, 2017 19:58:55 GMT
Weird, the system should alwasy produce atp, unless you have a lot of it already (to save space). What organelles did you have?
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Post by polymorph011 on Aug 4, 2017 20:02:27 GMT
Weird, the system should alwasy produce atp, unless you have a lot of it already (to save space). What organelles did you have? I had 3 flagellas, 2 mitochondria, 1 vacuole and a nucleus i think.
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Post by BiologicalSomething on Aug 4, 2017 20:50:11 GMT
Weird, the system should alwasy produce atp, unless you have a lot of it already (to save space). What organelles did you have? I had 3 flagellas, 2 mitochondria, 1 vacuole and a nucleus i think. Just poor gameplay
Your problem might be that you need more mitochondria to produce more ATP for you to be able to use all of that flagella. You also might want to grab another vacuole. I'll stop the game advice now
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Post by limeyhoney on Aug 5, 2017 1:04:55 GMT
Something I noticed, when my cell was damaged, and my mitochondria where really small, all production stopped. Is there already organelle damage, or was that a coincidence? (I assumed there was organelle damage at the time.)
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Post by BiologicalSomething on Aug 5, 2017 1:29:12 GMT
Something I noticed, when my cell was damaged, and my mitochondria where really small, all production stopped. Is there already organelle damage, or was that a coincidence? (I assumed there was organelle damage at the time.) Organelle hp is basically the microbe's hp, and the mitochondria probably were too weak to produce. It could've been that, now that you've brought it up.
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Post by polymorph011 on Aug 5, 2017 9:05:54 GMT
Something I noticed, when my cell was damaged, and my mitochondria where really small, all production stopped. Is there already organelle damage, or was that a coincidence? (I assumed there was organelle damage at the time.) Organelle hp is basically the microbe's hp, and the mitochondria probably were too weak to produce. It could've been that, now that you've brought it up. Oh. So that`s a thing that can happen. Yes, my microbe was hurt quite badly. Interesting.
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Post by BiologicalSomething on Aug 5, 2017 10:51:13 GMT
Organelle hp is basically the microbe's hp, and the mitochondria probably were too weak to produce. It could've been that, now that you've brought it up. Oh. So that`s a thing that can happen. Yes, my microbe was hurt quite badly. Interesting. Problem solved! I bet it was the toxic microbes
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Post by polymorph011 on Aug 5, 2017 12:10:36 GMT
Oh. So that`s a thing that can happen. Yes, my microbe was hurt quite badly. Interesting. Problem solved! I bet it was the toxic microbes Yes. The ones that are supposed to eat the player don`t do anything for some reason. BTW, ATP should be produced each time the microbe "exales" CO2, right? If it should, that`s not the case for me, idk why. Does toxin siow down ATP gen for a while? Because i had problems with it even after getting back up to full health. It seems like if you get hit by OT the only viable option is to let them finish you Sorry for being annoying like that.
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Post by BiologicalSomething on Aug 5, 2017 12:33:09 GMT
Problem solved! I bet it was the toxic microbes Yes. The ones that are supposed to eat the player don`t do anything for some reason. BTW, ATP should be produced each time the microbe "exales" CO2, right? If it should, that`s not the case for me, idk why. Does toxin siow down ATP gen for a while? Because i had problems with it even after getting back up to full health. It seems like if you get hit by OT the only viable option is to let them finish you Sorry for being annoying like that. I'd assume critically low health results in lack of ATP production. AI engulfment appears to be disabled, probably due to a bug. Toxin just harms your microbe. If you had problems after full health, I don't know what's happening, as that has never happened to me. About exhaling CO2, you were either producing too little ATP to supply your microbe or you swam over naturally occurring CO2.
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