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Post by TheGraveKnight on Apr 29, 2017 0:37:13 GMT
So an age old question about extinct animals is should they be brought back. In my opinion, it depends on how the species became extinct. If it died out due to natural causes (I.E the dinosaurs) then they should stay dead. But if it died out due to human causes (I.E West African Black Rhinoceros) then I can see a reason to bring it back. Feel free to tell your own opinion  |
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Post by Omicron on Apr 29, 2017 7:05:28 GMT
Well, to be fair, this is a highly unpopular opinion, but unless they died out specifically by human hunting or something, and not just because they couldn't adapt to a new environment which just so happened to be caused by humans, they should just stay extinct.
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Post by StealthStyleL on Apr 29, 2017 10:33:07 GMT
We should only bring back the dangerous ones so that they can be used in warfare.  But seriously, I would probably agree with your OP. |
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Post by crodnu on Apr 29, 2017 14:53:43 GMT
I'd say they should all be brougth back (at least the macroscopic ones), and depending on the case they should be released, kept on a research facility/zoo for studying or put on a farm for food, riding, or whatever else we can think of.
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Post by Longisquama on Apr 29, 2017 19:47:43 GMT
Well, we are the most probable cause of extinction of the animals we are most probably going to have the technology to clone (woolly mammoth, sabertooth, megailoania, diprotodon, moa...) so I think it is just fair.
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Post by serialkiller🌴 on Apr 29, 2017 20:28:05 GMT
I don't really care about the consequences , I want all dinosaurs back .
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Post by StealthStyleL on Apr 29, 2017 21:51:33 GMT
From what I've heard that won't be possible. DNA decays (?) over time and so dinosaur DNA is too led to use. I think they can go back to about mammoth era.
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Post by serialkiller🌴 on Apr 29, 2017 22:28:30 GMT
Well I've heard that you can fix the DNA with parts of frog dna (and I think Jurassic Park is a very credible source ).
Don't let science and facts hold you back, it's 2017 !
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Post by mitobox on Apr 29, 2017 22:49:09 GMT
From what I've heard that won't be possible. DNA decays (?) over time and so dinosaur DNA is too led to use. I think they can go back to about mammoth era. Well, I think I read somewhere that some scientists managed to find and examine tiny amounts of preserved dinosaur DNA that was pretty close to chicken DNA. This second idea is a bit far-fetched, but the existence of microfossils makes me wonder if organic material can have its shape preserved down to the smallest molecule. If that's the case, we could scan the structure of fossilized DNA and work from there. Aside from all that, there's "backwards evolution" that's being tried with chickens ("re-activating" code for tails, teeth, etc.), although that probably doesn't count. On the topic of choosing what species to bring back, remember that there's no "smoking gun" that humans played a major role in "Ice Age" species dying out. |
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Post by crabghast on May 1, 2017 7:17:38 GMT
If the reason for their extinction is human, absolutely yes. It's more murky with naturally extinct animals, but under the right conditions I don't have a problem with it. And speaking of backwards evolution, I don't know how to feel about it. If we have enough knowledge of bird DNA and what we need to change in it to make dinosaurs, I'm not against it. If we're just going to be making toothbird abominations that die after a few minutes time and time again until we find the right genes, yeah no.
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Post by TheGraveKnight on May 1, 2017 8:17:35 GMT
My reason for not wanting the dinosaurs back is because if Jurassic Park taught me one thing, it`s that humans don't know when to stop screwing around with science and end up causing unintentional large amounts of destruction in the process (I mean we all saw what happened with the T.Rexes, Spinosaurus and Indominus. It got REAAAAAAAAALY bad)
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Post by serialkiller🌴 on May 1, 2017 9:21:11 GMT
My reason for not wanting the dinosaurs back is because if Jurassic Park taught me one thing, it`s that humans don't know when to stop screwing around with science and end up causing unintentional large amounts of destruction in the process (I mean we all saw what happened with the T.Rexes, Spinosaurus and Indominus. It got REAAAAAAAAALY bad) But you have to admit that the parks were reeeaalllly cool . Also I think the accidents happened mostly because there were practically no safety precautions (like seriously a modern building / Park can be evacuated in less than an hour .) There is no way Jurassic Park would happen in real life. |
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Post by TheGraveKnight on May 1, 2017 9:46:36 GMT
My reason for not wanting the dinosaurs back is because if Jurassic Park taught me one thing, it`s that humans don't know when to stop screwing around with science and end up causing unintentional large amounts of destruction in the process (I mean we all saw what happened with the T.Rexes, Spinosaurus and Indominus. It got REAAAAAAAAALY bad) But you have to admit that the parks were reeeaalllly cool . Also I think the accidents happened mostly because there were practically no safety precautions (like seriously a modern building / Park can be evacuated in less than an hour .) There is no way Jurassic Park would happen in real life. I just think that it would be extremely dangerous to do. Even if we didn't stick them into parks, if they got into the wild they could seriously mess up environments and food webs. Or y`know PETA could happen. |
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Post by Longisquama on May 1, 2017 10:16:03 GMT
On the topic of choosing what species to bring back, remember that there's no "smoking gun" that humans played a major role in "Ice Age" species dying out. Well, it seems to me too much of a coincidence that megafauna just happened to become extinct exactly when modern humans arrive to a new territory (Australia 50000 BCE, America 10000 BCE, New Zealand 1300 CE...) In Europe they lasted a bit longer, but I think that there they were already evolved to avoid human-like species (as they coexisted with Neanderthals and others) same reason megafauna survived in Africa and South Asia. Climate change, on the other hand, doesn't seem very probable to me, as only one of the extinctions coincides with the end of the ice age (American megafauna) and all those species had already survived through all the other several ice ages and warm interglaciar periods (some of them much hotter than holocene). |
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Post by Pearlfection on May 6, 2017 14:51:21 GMT
I say if it's possible, yes. but only if we can keep them alive and thriving.
I would love it for people to be able to see a Thylacine again.
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Post by severalangrypies on May 8, 2017 11:35:22 GMT
To be honest, I think we should focus on preserving the species we already have. Eventually if we have the resources and most species are fairly protected then humanity can focus on bringing back extinct species.
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Post by crabghast on May 9, 2017 18:58:23 GMT
To be honest, I think we should focus on preserving the species we already have. Eventually if we have the resources and most species are fairly protected then humanity can focus on bringing back extinct species. Yes this exactly this The bigger ethical objection on bringing extinct animals back isn't how they'll live but the wasting of resources, and we should only care about those things realistically speaking, what will happen is that the masses of climate refugees from south Asia and Africa are locked out at the borders of western capitalist nations profiting of their economic dominance, while slowly devolving into cyberpunk dictatorship dominated by private corporations and mass surveillance, and millions die in the subsequent genocides and resource wars vying to survive the greatest mass extinction since the Permian era as well as the draining of major mineral and energy resources for millions of years to come I mean when we're Star Trek. Actual, living animals first. |
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Post by crodnu on May 9, 2017 20:24:40 GMT
I don't know, some animals could be very useful as cattle or for science (but yeah, maybe all animals at once could be too much xD)
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Post by crabghast on May 10, 2017 6:43:05 GMT
I don't know, some animals could be very useful as cattle or for science (but yeah, maybe all animals at once could be too much xD) Vat grown meat is the future. And I find it doubtful that any extinct species would be useful for anything but just seeing can we do it. |
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Post by Skyguy98 on May 13, 2017 21:38:10 GMT
I think that, if we could bring them back to the same state they were before they went extinct, it would be an interesting thing to do. In not entirely sure of the ethics behind it, but there is potentially a great wealth of knowledge available in studying the animals in habitats created to mimic their enviroments from when they went extinct. Plus it would increase the publics reaction to science, especially enviromental and cellular. It could lead to great discoveries in genetics, behavioral science, and many other fields.
Of course for it to work properly they would have to be within contained environments to not have outbreaks or unseen interactions, plus there's the whole we would have to commit significant resources to not only creating them and their enviroment, but also to maintain both those things.
All in all, an awesome idea, but probably to impractical to be done in a large scale anytime soon
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