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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 10:29:41 GMT
One question.
will we get goat organelles
Will we get bioluminescence?
CAN WE GLOW?!
please
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Post by Atrox on Apr 10, 2017 12:11:24 GMT
We should be! In fact, there is a bioluminescent organelle in the near future!
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Post by TheGraveKnight on Apr 10, 2017 12:26:34 GMT
We should be! In fact, there is a bioluminescent organelle in the near future! So wouldn't that mean there will be a light and dark mechanic too or am I thinking too hard?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 13:19:23 GMT
We should be! In fact, there is a bioluminescent organelle in the near future! So wouldn't that mean there will be a light and dark mechanic too or am I thinking too hard? The GDD mentions a mechanic with "light spots" where photosynthesis would be more effective, so bioluminescence would just be an artificial light spot. I believe at some point the GDD even says something about a plant and a bioluminescent creature working together!
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Post by Atrox on Apr 10, 2017 15:01:14 GMT
Exactly what @sentiant said
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Post by TheGraveKnight on Apr 10, 2017 15:02:10 GMT
Ahh ok. Thanks for the heads-up
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Post by crodnu on Apr 10, 2017 15:34:21 GMT
Can bioluminescent organelles even produce enough energy to help photosynthesis?
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Post by mitobox on Apr 10, 2017 15:42:05 GMT
I remember how microbes will either have a positive or negative response to something as determined in the Behavior Editor. Maybe bioluminescence can be used to lure cells with a photosensory organelle and a positive view of light? Can bioluminescent organelles even produce enough energy to help photosynthesis? Personally, I doubt it. Deep sea plants would be cool, though.
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Post by Atrox on Apr 10, 2017 15:44:38 GMT
I agree it's probably not enough energy. Besides realism, if the game allowed that then having both bioluminescent organelles and cholorplasts would be OP as hell.
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Post by crodnu on Apr 10, 2017 16:02:20 GMT
And, you know, break all the thermodynamic laws in existence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 19:54:23 GMT
And, you know, break all the thermodynamic laws in existence. Shouldn't it just cost more energy to be bioluminescent, then the light would give you energy if you have a chloroplast? Just to simulate the fact that photosynthesis isn't 100% efficient. I'm pretty sure that's the limiting factor to this "exploit" IRL. Also, I'm sorry if this is really confusing
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Post by crodnu on Apr 13, 2017 21:39:21 GMT
And, you know, break all the thermodynamic laws in existence. Shouldn't it just cost more energy to be bioluminescent, then the light would give you energy if you have a chloroplast? Just to simulate the fact that photosynthesis isn't 100% efficient. I'm pretty sure that's the limiting factor to this "exploit" IRL. Also, I'm sorry if this is really confusing Yes, that's what i meant. Otherwise the cell would "create" energy from nothing, and that's just physically impossible. But remember that you could have more than one chloroplast, and the energy you gather with them should always be lower that what it takes you to glow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 8:47:21 GMT
Yeah, there should probably just be a maximum amount of power you could harvest from any one light spot.
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Post by Omicron on Apr 16, 2017 10:39:09 GMT
Yeah, there should probably just be a maximum amount of power you could harvest from any one light spot. But... But... That would be illogical, as light doesn't just stop existing as soon as you hold some chloroplasts against it. A light source isn't like some sort of "resource" you can harvest and which can run out...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 11:39:13 GMT
Yeah, there should probably just be a maximum amount of power you could harvest from any one light spot. But... But... That would be illogical, as light doesn't just stop existing as soon as you hold some chloroplasts against it. A light source isn't like some sort of "resource" you can harvest and which can run out... I think you misunderstood what I said, I meant a maximum amount of power, as in watt, not a maximum amount of energy, it doesn't run out, it just can't provide you more than a certain amount of energy per second, no matter how many chloroplasts you have. I hope you understand it a bit better now, I'm pretty bad at explaining things
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Post by Omicron on Apr 17, 2017 18:13:00 GMT
But... But... That would be illogical, as light doesn't just stop existing as soon as you hold some chloroplasts against it. A light source isn't like some sort of "resource" you can harvest and which can run out... I think you misunderstood what I said, I meant a maximum amount of power, as in watt, not a maximum amount of energy, it doesn't run out, it just can't provide you more than a certain amount of energy per second, no matter how many chloroplasts you have. I hope you understand it a bit better now, I'm pretty bad at explaining things Ah yes that does make more sense. But, wouldn't it be better to maybe have chloroplasts "block" light or something (Will probably generate a huge amount of lag), so there wouldn't be a hard-coded max, but more just having it be impossible to have more than a certain amount of energy from the same source, as the player just wouldn't be able to have more than a certain amount of chloroplasts have "contact" with the light-source at the same time.
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